Episode 3: Relationships Are Hard. A New Perspective Can Help

[00:00:00] Erin: Welcome everyone to Grounded in Love podcast, episode three. This is a podcast taking us through different themes of conscious living and loving. Last week, we talked about our egos and mirrors, and this week we are looking at answering a few questions about that and discussing some, things that happened to us throughout last week.
[00:00:57] Garrett: Yeah. I think we both had some experiences that we can talk about today. I do want to first mention a couple of comments, questions we got from some listeners, because I really think it informs exactly what we're trying to do with this show. So I didn't know if you wanted me to go first. Okay. So one of our listeners wrote in and said, great job, episode two. Here's my summary and my attempt to relate it to my current situation. I'm curious if you think I'm applying the principles correctly.
And if so, I will attempt to do this moving forward. I was listening to Garrett's podcast again, and they talk about ego. They mention how anything I dislike about someone stems from something I dislike about myself. I recently had an interaction with a friend that seemed to invalidate my diagnosis.
I disliked that doubt, so I took it out on her. I need to try to see this behavior when it happens. If I dislike something about someone else from now on, I will try to help myself realize that it's really something I dislike about myself and that I'm projecting onto them. Is this what you mean by the concept of ego and mirrors?
[00:02:13] Yes. Absolutely. I mean, he nailed it, right? There's no question that , he absolutely took what we talked about last episode and nailed it.
[00:02:24] Erin: Right. Right. That was a beautiful example. Explain it a little bit more to us so that people listening who didn't quite understand.
[00:02:33] Garrett: Sure. This friend of his had this conversation with this listener, and the friend was invalidating something that he thought is important to him.
[00:02:46] But instead of having that conversation and just interacting with that person normally and seeing that invalidation as, hey, maybe this person just is not comfortable with knowing whatever diagnosis I have.
[00:03:01] Maybe that's what it is in them and that's why they're invalidating it as a numbing coping mechanism or a mechanism of we're just not going to think about this right now because it's too uncomfortable. It's too hard for us to think about it. Instead of his friend being empathetic to him, maybe the friend just said, I can't handle this right now.
[00:03:22] But, the important thing to know is when that came back to this listener, when the friend's invalidation came back to this listener, the listener resonated with it. Meaning that they got frustrated and upset by that invalidation. And that's what the mirror means.
[00:03:45] It's okay to see things that are happening, and we'll talk about that in this episode, but when it comes back to you and it makes you feel something inside about yourself, then that's the opportunity to step back and say, okay, what is it about me?
[00:04:02] What is it about the situation that I'm finding uncomfortable? And to this listener, it was, he's uncomfortable with the diagnosis that he received as well. And that's why it was tough for him to have this interaction with his friend. And he nailed it.
[00:04:18] When we're out in society, again, we have mirrors all around us. They are everywhere. It doesn't mean that we're always going to act perfectly in the situation. But when we do feel these uncomfortable emotions arise inside of us it's an excellent opportunity at some point in time, ideally in the moment. But even after the moment, some point in time, reflect on that to say, what is it about this that I don't like, or I'm uncomfortable with internally?
[00:04:52] Erin: Right. Because there are times where you'll have things happen with a friend or a relationship and it doesn't really bother you. And you're not having these really bold emotions coming up and everything. And that means it's probably not something that you struggle with. There's not some sort of issue.
[00:05:10] But when something does come up, that's where you go, okay, something is resonating with me about this. It's bothering me in some way and it's not the other person. It's not what they are, saying or doing. It's all about how you feel about it. Yeah, I think that was a really great example from our listener.
[00:05:31] I really enjoyed seeing that come through.
[00:05:35] Garrett: That’s why we are doing this podcast to begin with is to make that type of impact on someone. Imagine how compassionate the world can be if instead of every time we see something that lacks virtue, for example, we say that person is just going through something. It has nothing to do with me.
[00:05:58] They're either going through something that's difficult for them or they've never learned any other way. They just don't know any other way. That amount of love and compassion for that person who before maybe would have upset you or annoyed you. Now they are your friend that just doesn't know any better. And the love and compassion that the world can have, as more and more people do that, that changes the world. I mean, this listener just trying to see his thoughts in these interactions, just those little things change the entire world.
[00:06:39] Erin: Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
[00:06:41] Garrett: Do you want to mention what you heard from one of our listeners?
[00:06:45] Erin: One of our listeners said that they felt so much more aware, but also so much more confused, which I love that because it's so true.
[00:06:56] Garrett: It's so true. As your awareness grows, it's confusing. Because it's basically challenging the identity that you thought you always had. And now it's saying well, maybe I'm not all that person.
[00:07:11] Maybe I can believe differently than what I've been taught, that's extremely confusing. I remember the first time I had this awakening experience, the next day, I was laying in bed and I was like, oh my gosh, my whole life is going to change. Like everything about my life is going to change because I know things now that I did not know before.
[00:07:36] And because of those things that I know, I can't exist the way that I did before. I have to make these changes about my life and my beliefs and my values and I wasn't thrilled about it. It was not a joyous feeling. It was almost a dreadful feeling of my whole identity of who I think about myself is not really who I am.
[00:08:00] Erin: Yeah. It's very overwhelming.
[00:08:03] Garrett: Yeah. It can be very challenging, but I’m very grateful for it, of course. Thank you listeners. Keep on listening. If this can help somebody in your life, share it with them. Review our podcast when you can. Definitely helps other people find it. But this is what we're about.
[00:08:19] We want to, again, have a more union, union ness? Unionness?
[00:08:26] Erin: I don't know if that's a word.
[00:08:29] Garrett: United? You are united. Makes sense. And you are in a united world that's more loving and more compassionate, not only to others, but to ourselves, to ourselves.
[00:08:40] So I recently went up to visit my parents in Northern California and I took my three kids up there.
[00:08:49] And it's really interesting to see how it is visiting them now, versus how it was visiting them a year ago.
[00:09:01] So often when you visit your parents, if they're still living and you have the opportunity to do so, it is a great spiritual practice. It's fantastic. Keep in mind everything that you learned about yourself and your identity, including duality, good, bad, right, wrong, was learned from your parents, mostly, or from whoever raised you.
[00:09:26] Those were the things that you learned. And so, as you develop over time, you start to either agree with those things that you learned as a kid, or you start to repress the things that you learned as a kid.
[00:09:41] So these are the parts of you inside that either are getting stronger, or being like, No, I don't like that about myself. I don't like that about other people. I don't like that about my parents. And so when you go to your parents house it shows you everything.
[00:09:56] Erin: It's mirrors all over the place.
[00:09:58] Garrett: You have the best possible mirror. And I used to go to my parents house and after two or three days, it would start to be a struggle.
[00:10:08] It started to be a struggle because they would start to act as parents, almost, to me again, as a child in their house. Because that's what they're used to. That's their pattern that they're used to. And I would start to respond by rebelling against it to be like, no, I'm an adult, like you can't treat me like, like a child, blah, blah, blah.
[00:10:28] But this trip was different. It was one trip where I clearly saw parts of me that I have patterns from. And my parents exemplified those patterns to me. So for example, when I have struggles with anxiety, with needing to feel like I have to know the future.
[00:10:54] I saw that in my parents. I saw the need for control because of that fear of not knowing what the future is going to hold. I saw the need to be very controlling of certain activities in life.
[00:11:10] Erin: So you are seeing their need for control or need for knowing and recognizing it in yourself.
[00:11:18] Garrett: Absolutely. recognizing it in patterns that I've noticed already. So patterns that I've noticed about myself. I saw it and basically where it comes from. It was very clear where it comes from. It was very clear as to why that leads to suffering.
I saw the suffering while I was there in both parties. And for me, I used to want to try to fix it. And instead I can't,
[00:11:50] Erin: fix their struggles or fix your own?
[00:11:54] Garrett: I can do something about my own. But with them the only thing I can be to them is a compassionate presence. Somebody who listens and hears them and sees the struggle that they have in certain places. And is there with them in that struggle.
[00:12:13] And also completely empathetic to how tough it is to live that way.
[00:12:19] Erin: Yeah. And not take it on though.
[00:12:21] Garrett: But not take it on. So that's the difference between seeing something and resonating with something. Seeing something is I see what's happening, I'm empathetic, I share in your sorrow and I am here for you in that. It's not you need to fix something so that you feel better about yourself because they're not in that place.
[00:12:45] They're not ready for that. That's not something that they want to do. And there's many people in the world that are not ready. For becoming more conscious and becoming more aware. And that's OK. Everyone has their own path and their own journey.
[00:13:00] Erin: Yeah, so just seeing it, and being there for them. And then also, like you said, for yourself. What that does for you and looking at your own behaviors and things, that's the most helpful thing is to look inward.
[00:13:15] Garrett: Absolutely. Always looking inward that's where the awareness is. The awareness is not outside of us. It's inside of us. It's what sees everything. It's what is everything. That's what consciousness is. That's where real growth happens inside of us, not from outside of us. So I do want to mention a story.
[00:13:37] It's a parenting story of what happened while I was visiting my parents. One day we went to the movie theater. We watched Inside Out 2, which I love. I think Inside Out 2 is a fantastic movie. I've now seen it twice. Really cool principles in there. So we're watching the movie and during the movie I let my kids get popcorn and then they had water.
They had been eating a lot of sugary stuff while visiting my parents. And so I said, okay, you guys can have water cups. So we go into the theater. My kids all have their waters. They all have their popcorns. And about halfway through the movie, I said, I have a feeling that my oldest son is going to go get soda in his water cup.
[00:14:24] It came out of nowhere it was a completely random thought. It was completely my intuition. Something about when he got up, said to me, he's going to go get soda in his water cup. I'm sure he's not the only kid that's ever done this. But I was like, okay, now I have to go see if my intuition was correct.
[00:14:43] So he goes down, I go down a minute later, he's walking back towards the movie theater from the soda machines. And as he's walking back to me, he has his cup in front of him and he puts it down. Towards the side of him like, oh this is something I don't really want you to see so I'm going to put this on the side of me.
[00:15:08] And at that moment I was like, oh, I know I know he has soda in there.
It has to be this. So I go up to him and I say hey, I'd like some water and he goes. Oh, it's not water. It's soda. Kudos to him for being upfront about the soda. And instantly, my ego just wanted to take over. It wanted to say, Oh my gosh, what type of kid am I raising who's just stealing stuff without paying for it?
[00:15:40] What is this going to mean as he's an adult and grows up and what other things is he stealing?
[00:15:45] Erin: Lying to you about it. Yeah.
[00:15:47] Garrett: He's being super shady about it. What does this mean for the future? And like my anxiety and all those thoughts just started spinning super fast.
[00:15:56] There was no delay. It was just very fast spinning. And luckily was able, before I responded to him, was able to see all these thoughts spinning and calmly say, hey, pour it out, we didn't pay for soda. And when we don't pay for something, we're stealing it from someone. And we don't steal.
[00:16:22] And as soon as I said that. Again, in a calm, as least judgmental way I could possibly say it. I saw his reaction and it was one of just sunken defeatedness.
[00:16:40] Erin: Was there shame?
[00:16:42] Garrett: Definitely shame. I could feel the shame radiating from him. And when I saw that I was like, this is not what I intend for him to feel.
[00:16:52] Of course, I can't control how he feels but that's not what I want out of this conversation, this exchange. I don't want him to have this shame about what he did. I just want him to make better decisions in the future, so he left. And he was in his shame and he went back into the theater and I took a few breaths because I still, my ego was still worrying about all this.
[00:17:19] So I went back in the theater and I leaned over to him and I whispered in his ear, I said, Hey, you're a good kid. Just make better choices. And that was it.
[00:17:31] We didn't need to have any other conversation about it the rest of the weekend. He felt much better about the entire situation because I think what he needed to know was that he'd still be loved.
[00:17:45] Erin: Yeah. I mean, that's where the root of that shame lives.
[00:17:50] Garrett: Mm hmm.
[00:17:51] Erin: It's, well, no one loved me anymore because I've done quote, bad things.
[00:17:56] Garrett: Right. Exactly. A few years back. That's not how I would have handled it. I would not have interacted with Brayden that way. I probably would have been a lot meaner about, about it.
[00:18:07] Because of my anxiety about what type of person am I raising and how I'm supposed to be a better parent, blah, blah, blah. And so it would have been shame based
[00:18:16] Erin: And maybe that's where I expect better of you, you know.
[00:18:19] Garrett: and I think it's very common for parents to do that to their kids.
[00:18:24] And it's, again, not something that's bad, but is that what you're trying to convey to them? And I don't think it is.
[00:18:32] Erin: We always have good intentions as parents, whether, we're doing the right thing or not. But the more aware we are, like your situation you just had, the more capable we are of conveying the things that will lead to healthier relationships.
[00:18:52] So, I had a situation this week where I would have before handled it in a completely different way. And I was able to take that moment and change the situation, to something that I feel better walking away from and hopefully the relationship and everything else was better for it too. A couple of days ago, my kids had their physical well checkups with their doctor.
[00:19:20] They had just gotten back from a trip. So they had been overstimulated and overwhelmed, a little bit tired and the appointment was kind of early.
[00:19:32] Garrett: What time was it?
[00:19:33] Erin: It was 840.
[00:19:34] Garrett: Yeah, that’s pretty early for teenage kids.
[00:19:36] Erin: So, you know, we have to get up and get ready and drive out there. My middle child was not thrilled about this timing and was mentally and physically exhausted from everything. And so when I got him up that morning he essentially ignored the wake up calls I was giving him. I did a couple times going, Okay Ryder time to get up, we're getting ready. And about 15 minutes before we were supposed to leave…
[00:20:09] Garrett: Did, did he ignore them or did he say, no, like, I'm not, I don't want to go.
[00:20:14] Erin: He basically was ignoring the wake up calls.
[00:20:17] I was going in there and he was like, no, well he did say, no, it's too early or something, but you know, it's kind of just regular complaining. You never know where that's going. But we got to the point where he still wasn't up and I was like, Hey, look, we need to get going. And that’s when he really started to say why would you do this?
Why would you make this appointment so early? We just got back from a trip.
[00:20:42] He was really upset he started to get like angry. And so I normally would be triggered by him getting angry at me for making this appointment because, I would feel like, Hey, I'm just trying to do my best here.
[00:20:58] I have to make these appointments. They're hard to get in, this is just something that we have to do. And why are you complaining and making this so difficult?  You have to get up and do this. And if you don't get up now, we're going to be late. And my anxiety starts going of all the things about being late, which I definitely have drilled into my kids as well.
[00:21:17] What I did instead was I saw all of those thoughts coming up about the anxiety of my parenting, about being on time. And I thought, okay, Ryder's tired. He's obviously overwhelmed. He can't handle anything.
[00:21:36] If I start yelling at him right now to get up and you have to be in the car in 10 minutes, like it or not, he would have then reacted more angrily and more defensively because I'm fighting back with him.
[00:21:51] But instead I said, look, we have to do these fall checkups every year. I have your athletic clearance forms that need to be done in order for you to do your athletics in the school year. And if you don't go, I, I don't know if we can go back and get these completed.
[00:22:09] So you can either stay home and stay in bed and miss this appointment, or you can try to get up. I will be down in the car in 10 minutes and we will leave if you're not there. This is going to be your decision. And I was ready to leave should he not get in the car because no longer am I going to engage in the back and forth arguing.
[00:22:38] Because it just doesn't help. I told him I see that you're really tired. I see that you feel really overwhelmed. And if you really feel like you can not get out of bed, then that's fine. But there are consequences and the consequences are you won't get your athletic forms cleared.
[00:22:55] And you won't have your annual checkup, which is good for you.
[00:22:58] Garrett: So how did you feel when you were having this conversation with Ryder?
[00:23:04] Erin: I think that once I saw the anxious thoughts that came up like immediately, like boom, oh my God, he's going to fight me on this, this is going to be a terrible morning, you know, all of that stuff. Yeah. When I saw that, I was really able to, slow all that down and be like, wait a second, I want to handle this differently.
[00:23:26] And so I felt good in the way I was going with it. There was
[00:23:31] Garrett: Did you feel calm? Was it like a peaceful feeling?
[00:23:34] Erin: yeah, I did. Because normally that would not happen. I would be worked up. But I felt really calm and I went and I sat out in the car in that 10 minutes the rest of the family was in the car. We were all waiting.
[00:23:46] And I knew that we were going to be a decent amount late because of it. But I saw that he was getting his shoes on but he was, he was trying to make it out. And so we gave it, you know, we gave it some extra time. He came out.
[00:24:04] Garrett: So when you were with your kids in the car. What do you think they saw when you were in this kind of presence of calmness? Do you think that they saw that from you?
[00:24:19] Erin: Well, yeah, and I think that's where the whole thing of modeling is so much more important than all the things that you say to them.
[00:24:27] Because normally I would have modeled impatience, irritation, anxiety. And that's where they often are anxious about being late. And I see it, I see it directly in them. My oldest is often anxious about being late and he wasn't in this case.
[00:24:46] At one point he just said, how late are we? Like what time was the appointment supposed to be? And I was like, you know what - it's okay. I'm not even going to tell you because it is what it is.
[00:24:59] Garrett: I think that kids can pick up on your energy, they don't know consciously that they can, but they are little energy magnets. They know your energy.
[00:25:11] So when you're stressed and when you're anxious and when you're in a place of rushing and doing and doing all the things that you feel like you need to do. They are along for that ride and they sense it. They always sense your energy. You can't hide it from them. And then some people do try to hide their energy from them and be like, Oh, I'm fine.
[00:25:30] And you're teaching them when I feel all these things that are uncomfortable I just don't feel them and I put on a smile and say, everything's fine.
[00:25:39] Erin: Yeah. And it also builds trust issues because say you are acting completely different than the energy you're putting off, your young child is like, I can't trust them that they actually feel this way because that is not at all what I'm feeling from them.
[00:25:57] Garrett: or even further. I can't trust how I feel. They're learning that they can't trust their intuition because mom doesn't trust her intuition. Dad doesn't trust it like I'm feeling these things, but they're not acting like my intuition tells me that this other person is angry, but they're acting like they have a smile on their face and everything. So they're not trusting their intuition. Because their person that they trust more than anything, their parent is saying, no, that's wrong. I am happy.
[00:26:31] Erin: So that's where I think it really affects them.
[00:26:34] Garrett: Yeah. So let's fast forward a little bit in the story. So Ryder gets in the car, you guys head over to the doctor's office. So you get into the doctor's office, you know, you're late. Okay. So what is going on in your mind when you get to the doctor's office and you're late?
[00:26:52] Erin: Yeah, so at first, I was feeling really calm. I'm like, yes, I'm like, I'm killing this, you know? Which normally I would not.
[00:27:03] So then I start seeing the nurses and everyone say, well, okay, we're going to do this and this to try to hurry things along because you're the first patient and they were saying things that I knew they were trying to accommodate and make changes and adjust because we were going to set their whole day off.
[00:27:25] What's going through my head is, oh, now they're going to be backed up from the start and there's nobody else in the office. So it's very obvious that we're the ones that are slowing things up.
[00:27:36] So I immediately started having those thoughts of guilt – that I'm inconveniencing other people. And normally that would been spurred from the very beginning.
[00:27:51] Of I can't be late. So these thoughts started coming up, even though I had got through all of that and I felt really calm, but seeing it affect everybody, I was like uh oh.So I was seeing those thoughts and I didn't feel like there was much I could do about them, except for just acknowledge I'm seeing that I'm having these thoughts come up over and over through the visit of, Oh, they had to do this because we were late.
[00:28:19] Ooh, they had to do that before because we were late and try not to blame myself. Try not to feel that guilt, because if I'm being really empathetic to the people at the office I would have done it at the expense of my son.
[00:28:37] He would have felt. Like you're not listening to me. You're not caring about me. All you care about is what's gonna happen at the office with those people. And that's what I normally would have done is I would not have empathized with my son and the fact that hey, he's having a hard morning for whatever reason and while I want to, of course, be respectful of the doctor's office time - my sister had a great question, which was
[00:29:11] Garrett: Shouldn't you care other people? Shouldn't that be something that we are doing to be empathetic to other people's plights in their life?
[00:29:22] Erin: I mean, absolutely but, Garrett had a great point. Do you want to say how you answered?
[00:29:28] Garrett: Sure. When we talk about empathy, oftentimes we talk about it as a half-truth. Like we say, well, we need to be empathetic, or we want to be empathetic. That's something that's important to us, especially for people that are very empathetic in their lives or empaths.
[00:29:43] But what we don't realize because of the clouding of our ego is, you may be very empathetic to the doctor's office and cultural expectations of being on time and being respectful. You could be very empathetic to that.
[00:29:59] But are you also being empathetic to your child? Are you holding them in the same regard?
[00:30:06] Are you feeling like one empathy is more important then the other empathy? Also, when you have these things that come up in your mind, like you experienced anxiety, the guilt, the shame that started to pop up inside of you, are you being empathetic to yourself?
[00:30:24] Garrett: Are you letting yourself love yourself while still being empathetic to all?
[00:30:32] And I think many people cannot do that. Because they feel like, no, you only can be empathetic to this. You only can be empathetic to the cultural expectations of things. Because that's what matters.
[00:30:46] Anything else is selfish in some ways. Like you may find that it's selfish to think of my own feelings and my own thoughts and my own intuition.
[00:30:55] So I think one of the points of your interaction all of that was most parents would handle that situation very differently. They would become the authority figure and they would oppress their child by basically saying no, this is what you have to do. I'm in charge. You're not in charge. Get in the car.
[00:31:18] And it's very demanding power, fear based. And that's something that I would have done and I have done. But it leads to the lesson to your child of there's power and they don't have all of it.
[00:31:34] Erin: And you know what?
[00:31:34] I see that come out in my kids specifically where they have a power dynamic with their siblings then. So the oldest tries to have power over the middle child because they are learning that there are power dynamics in relationships.
[00:31:55] And they feel powerless in some relationships, like with their parents. And, in order to feel that power, they're going to try it out with their people that they could have power over. And so you can see where they learn that and what happens with it.
[00:32:12] Garrett: Yeah. And there are power dynamics in society, of course, and culturalism and whatnot. But I think it's important to realize that we all have the power inside of us. We have the ultimate power inside of us and nobody can take that away. And nobody can give it to us. It's already there. So, when you feel like you don't have all the power, you do try to dominate certain things.
[00:32:39] You are going to try to control certain areas of your life to have that power and control in. But you're also going to be very weak other times when you are around authoritative figures. And that is a tough place to be. How can you feel unified in a society that puts you down all the time that pushes you down.
[00:33:06] You can't.
[00:33:07] Erin: No. So when you say the power is already within us. How does one feel that or know that? How do you explain that that power is already within us? Can you talk on that for a second or is that getting too off topic here?
[00:33:22] Garrett: I think we probably need to do a podcast episode on how to feel within and feel the presence inside of you. The knowing starts with the belief of it. You can't know something that you cannot believe. You have beliefs, which are lower than what you know.
[00:33:42] You know stuff, and it's because you just know it. It's a dead truth to you.
[00:33:48] Erin: But when you say know it, that's different than having the information.
[00:33:53] Garrett: Oh, absolutely. Yes.
[00:33:55] Erin: So having the information is below belief.
[00:33:57] Garrett: Correct. And we see this all the time. We have a lot of knowledge and we've learned a lot of things about what's healthy for us or what's not healthy for us. And yet we still choose things that are unhealthy for us all the time. So just having the intelligence or the actual learning of something is not transformative in a lot of ways.
[00:34:18] After that comes belief. It becomes, okay, these vegetables that I'm eating are healthier for my body than eating this processed junk food. Mm-Hmm, . You had learned that before, but now you believe it.
[00:34:33] Okay, that's different than just learning it.
[00:34:35] Then, knowing something is the layer above that. Where it's something that nobody had to teach you. You didn't learn it anywhere. It comes from within. Oftentimes most people can't get to this level because they're so caught up in their mind chatter that they have no ability to open the door to this knowing. And that knowing is the consciousness.
[00:34:57] It is the awareness. And that is something that you experience through practicing meditation, yoga, quieting the mind, being present inside of yourself, as opposed to always looking to things to fill your time up.
[00:35:12] Erin: Mm hmm. I feel like I experienced that knowing as first I believe something and then all of a sudden it kind of clicks. It resonates.
[00:35:23] It connects with some sort of just, okay, now I actually know that. That is a knowing to me.
[00:35:32] Garrett: Yes, because a belief comes from a teaching like you can listen to wise teachers in your life and really respect them. For me, one of my favorite teachers that I follow is Eckhart Tolle. When I hear him talk I resonate with the truths that he's talking about like I have an equal belief of, yes, this guy knows what I know in some way.
[00:35:57] And when you're listening to somebody, it's a belief. When you're listening to this podcast, maybe you start to believe some of the things that we talk about because you're starting to buy in to it, but it's not a knowing until you actually experience it or see it yourself.
[00:36:14] And we cannot ever get you to a knowing place. A knowing place comes from you.
[00:36:21] Garrett: So I think that's going to be a wrap for us.
[00:36:25] Erin: Okay. We can leave it on that. And we would love to hear any of your questions that you have from this episode or what you'd like to hear more about.
[00:36:33] Garrett: Yeah, we do have on our website, groundedtolove. com, we have what we call the love box Q& A section. So feel free to submit a question and answer.
[00:36:43] As we build up some subscribers there, we will be releasing a newsletter every month about questions that people have and answering them. Super grateful for you listening. You are helping change the world whether you know it or not.
[00:36:58] Erin: Thank you all